New Exeter Radio Show - image rights continued

I have done a video edit of my own bit on this week's show. More to come on other sections but I want to continue the story on image rights and copyright. A bit obscure so this tends to be interrupted by some other issue on the radio, or some music. I did a report on the Classic Synth event, linked to Analog to Digital. Digital music is the strongets base for relaxed copyright attitudes. I also mention the videos at Spacex and the Sundown demoscene party. This year Sundown are suggesting Creative Commons as something to consider for all the releases. Previously things have been more informal but there have been problems as when tunes reappear on a commercial mix. Creative Commons terms are specific about allowed forms of reuse.

Not sure about a video record of the evening at Spacex next Thursday. Maybe more later. I cannot follow the German but the YouTube video from Frankfurt shows the art video in a window so street interviews are possible. Any translation welcome.

Back to memory

The New Exeter Radio show turns out to be a good development for me. It is a real chat show so it has a focus. So far no problem with video permissions, including when the music is playing. Copyright issues will return around animation before too long.

Current topics are around car boot sales. I was surprised not to be allowed to video the Art Car Boot Fair at the Castle but the policy seems to work out. Two stories in the Express and Echo including a photo from the organisers. So the close control of images can be effective and is clearly one policy option. But this Saturday there is a carboot for Vintage Guitars and Classic Synths. the analogue to Digital event was open to photos and there was an agreed tag - A2D09 - so my stuff on YouTube can be found. Includes performance from the evening.

Search on "new exeter radio show image rights" to find recent views from me. Lighting dreadful but the sound is ok.

Meanwhile things do change and I have been able to record some aspects of Spacex events, including a talk at the cathedral by Simon Pope and an interview with Nick Durnan at Spacex. Simon Pope curated the show based on memories of stone carving that Nick Durnan will recreate. So the four clips below may be a basis for memories or future interviews and comments. The street views done recently. comments welcome on this blog or as video on YouTube.





should link to other ones

Image Rights continued

Not sure what is happening with the Art Car Boot Sale. the report in the Express and Echo has a photo by Oliver Sanders. there is an Express and Echo reference - EE90809_0S03_03. Wendy brooking is quoted so I doubt that she wrote the story. so i must have got the wrong impression from what I heard on Sunday. Maybe things change as they go along. I don't think there is any other report in print. Perhaps bloggers and photos/video for Flickr and Youtube will be more welcome on the next occasion.

I still wonder if the Express and Echo really benefit from exclusives or if this is something that they seek. The Ice Rink for example. Wider coverage online might have been helpful. They do have stuff on YouTube but it is not as well known as it might be.

I may return to the New Exeter Radio Show this Thursday. Video from last week is on their Ning site and YouTube. Including this about image rights-



The problem is quite a general one, not just about the Art Car Boot Sale. I may try to include Laura Kikauka in the discussion. I could not get permission to video the launch of her show at Spacex. Maybe another context could help. Ask her to do a set design for a disco perhaps. Video would be more easily accepted.

I still think that music and visual images are at different stages of adjustment to Web consequences. Video of live sound performance is often ok. When I get this wrong please let me know. But any form of photo with an art visual image in the shot is taking things back a few years.

Coming up soon another Car Boot Sale, this time for Vintage Guitars and Classic Synths. Previously it was ok to video at the analog to Digital event. Hope lots of people take photos and/or blog. Tags yet to emerge as far as I know.

As it is difficult to get permission to video art I will do more of my own stuff to try things out with. An imagined set of cables joining the buildings around the castle. More photos to come and this stock item on Vimeo. It can be downloaded from there. Also in sections on Flickr where there is a clear Creative commons licence. Variations welcome. I may do a copyrighted version myself later.

Plagiarism, awaiting a swift reply

Oh dear, a bad review for Plagiarismo. Perhaps it is too polished now or something. Worked ok at the Phoenix a while ago.

My takeaway was that most art is a response to something else. So plagiarism is ok. Following a recent conversation I am thinking about doing some photos collage in the style of David Hockney. Not even my idea in the first place. Obviously if there was a budget we would get David Hockney to do it. I have written to Richard to ask if there is any alternative.

Car Boot Sale no easier to access than a gallery..

This seems the right blog as visual art is close enough to animation. Thrown out of the Art Carbootfair today. Letter on facebook group was truncated. I am in rave mood I suppose.

So copy below=

Hello Wendy

I am still thinking about ways to work on photography and video around visual images. More on this later. Meanwhile here are the facts as I see them about earlier today.

I had spoken to you on the phone last night about wanting to video for YouTube and stills for Flickr on the Art Carboot Fair in Exeter. You said that you did not want this to happen as you had your own plans. However I did not think i had explained myself very well so wanted to talk to you in person. Today I paid a pound to get in, asked to speak to you but you were not then available. I spoke to a couple of people with exhibits, then was able to speak to you. I pointed out that I intended to blog in text, reporting what I observed and thought. You asked me to leave as you did not want to encourage such activity. I asked what you would do if the Express and Echo or BBC wished to report the event. You stated that you were yourself the effective reporter for the Express and Echo as you would be writing their story. You then refunded me my pound admission but refused to sign a reciept as proof that I had entered the event with reasonable grounds for the conversations with people also attending. I then left.

If there are nay of the facts above you think are untrue, please let me know as soon as possible.

I am trying to explore ways in which online media can be used to promote local events. I have done video on other occasions at the Castle and other places. I don't do interviews or photograph images unless the people involved give permission.

But I think there are some policy issues that are worth looking at. Many music performers now accept that Youtube video appears of their performances. Visual artists are less relaxed about this. I am not sure whether the artists have the same approach as the management from galleries. The "carbootsale" suggests some informality but my guess is that few galleries would have an image rights policy as controlled as yours. May be wrong about this, photography is quite rare.

I am also quite concerned about the Express and Echo. A few years ago they had exclusive image rights on the Ice Rink in the castle. They did not give permission for others to do video. Some video did appear on YouTube but very casually. As local news adjusts to online technology there may be subsidy for local newspapers that also start to do video. My own view is that this should welcome links between news organisations and other contributions, including YouTube and bloggers. When the Express and Echo makes arrangements for exclusive image rights it may not be moving in a sensible direction. Online, some brands benefit from a more open approach.

Hope you will reconsider your policy on a future occasion.

Will