In Feb 2010 I will introduce a selection of video at the Phoenix as part of Animated Exeter. This will start with early computer animation, then the demoscene, then music video. There is only space for fifteen seats and the time allowed is now two hours, about twice what I expected. So there should be plenty of scope for discussion.
The event is free and there is no budget so probably there will not be actual video from the early days. Some free download extracts are available online and permission will be asked for. Alternatively there will probably also be discussion of the computer techniques used by John Whitney and comparison with techniques known on the demoscene.
Meanwhile there is much content on YouTube so an idea of the intention comes across from this playlist-
about ten minutes short of an hour at the moment so suggestions are welcome. Also any new stuff from the demoscene or music video. Not sure how much will be shown in Feb but weblinks always possible.
The description being used is "digital music video" as being very general. Also not sure about the rights on other terms such as "visual music", "expanded cinema", "new canvas", others. Need to find a way to describe "early computer animation". demoscene is clear enough. "music video" crops up on YouTube. Generally the early content is not well known as far as I can tell compared with the demoscene. Based on people I meet. So issues around how stuff is distributed will be part of the discussion.
There may be time to look at games. But music video seems to me to be the most interesting direction.
Thursday, November 05, 2009
Thursday, October 29, 2009
Water Art becoming more abstract
The Artists in Devon site continues to get much interest from bloggers and the income from Google ads is encouraging more work. not at the level of the first interest from Indian blogs but still in the same area as selling a watercolour a month. So something to consider as a model for artists. Previously this blog and other efforts have attempted to promote things but it turns out this site has worked by some sort of chance. The format needs to be intended for online before it can reach much of a scale.
Joanne Poore has used the same approach on her own site with seashells that seem more abstract than the earlier examples. Meanwhile Paul Gillard has added some that are definitely abstract to the Artists in Devon site.
there is something about making a splash in water that appeals. Moving the mouse around is enough. I also recently saw a video of the game flOw that has some of the same appeal. I have not tried the actual game but it seems to involve an avatar in water where the scene changes depending on the moves. I found a trailer on YouTube.
Hope to find out more about this later.
Joanne Poore has used the same approach on her own site with seashells that seem more abstract than the earlier examples. Meanwhile Paul Gillard has added some that are definitely abstract to the Artists in Devon site.
there is something about making a splash in water that appeals. Moving the mouse around is enough. I also recently saw a video of the game flOw that has some of the same appeal. I have not tried the actual game but it seems to involve an avatar in water where the scene changes depending on the moves. I found a trailer on YouTube.
Hope to find out more about this later.
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
OK YouTube
There will be a chance to develop links to the demoscene during animated Exeter next February. Last year I started to use "visual music" as well as "new canvas" to describe the early computer animation shown previously. This year I am using the term "digital music video" to describe this and some of the demoscene and those music videos that relate. this is partly because I use Youtube to find examples and most of the people represented in "A new Canvas" now have at least one extract available online. On YouTube "music video" seems to crop up often as a description so "digital music video" is a way to distinguish what interests me. Eventually i would like to do a screening of roughly equal parts of early computer animation, demoscene and music video. Unfortunately the costs of distributing the early work make this difficult. some stills will be used to show what is available. So the Youtube version of the event will make a significant contribution.
This seems appropriate for computer generated content. Distribution through film happened at a time before broadband. The demoscene is intended to be shown as runtime from an original computer. Classic equipment is not always available so emulation is accepted at some parties. I think DVD is ok for a wider audience. My interest is mostly as a viewer.
I think YouTube could be used more for promotion of video. At Spacex till 26th November there is an exhibition by Shaun Gladwell consisting mostly of video. After the curator's tour I asked Tania Doropoulos about policy around putting video online. As I understand it Shaun gladwell intends his video to be seen as controlled in a gallery but accepts that others can make video of each installation and make it available online. There are several clips already on YouTube for example.
From the Spacex exhibition I would like there to be a detail showing the motorcycle in water. This might be compared with the Water Art from Paul Gillard on the artists in Devon website. This has photographs each including water that ripples as the mouse is moved over it. Following interest from bloggers, mostly in India, there has been enough attention ( and clicks on the Google ads) for the pages to be expanded with more examples. I think it is a welcome development for artists to be working on content designed for online. Galleries still have a role though as far as I know the Water Art is still online only. The Shaun Gladwell video is completeely different in a gallery so the YouTube versions are only for people who are not near a current exhibition. They are a way to reach a wider audience, not an alternative to a gallery.
On the 24th October at Spacex "Take Place" will explore issues "surrounding the reclaiming of public space through artist intervention". YouTube is public space. Artist intervention is a choice.
This seems appropriate for computer generated content. Distribution through film happened at a time before broadband. The demoscene is intended to be shown as runtime from an original computer. Classic equipment is not always available so emulation is accepted at some parties. I think DVD is ok for a wider audience. My interest is mostly as a viewer.
I think YouTube could be used more for promotion of video. At Spacex till 26th November there is an exhibition by Shaun Gladwell consisting mostly of video. After the curator's tour I asked Tania Doropoulos about policy around putting video online. As I understand it Shaun gladwell intends his video to be seen as controlled in a gallery but accepts that others can make video of each installation and make it available online. There are several clips already on YouTube for example.
From the Spacex exhibition I would like there to be a detail showing the motorcycle in water. This might be compared with the Water Art from Paul Gillard on the artists in Devon website. This has photographs each including water that ripples as the mouse is moved over it. Following interest from bloggers, mostly in India, there has been enough attention ( and clicks on the Google ads) for the pages to be expanded with more examples. I think it is a welcome development for artists to be working on content designed for online. Galleries still have a role though as far as I know the Water Art is still online only. The Shaun Gladwell video is completeely different in a gallery so the YouTube versions are only for people who are not near a current exhibition. They are a way to reach a wider audience, not an alternative to a gallery.
On the 24th October at Spacex "Take Place" will explore issues "surrounding the reclaiming of public space through artist intervention". YouTube is public space. Artist intervention is a choice.
Wednesday, September 23, 2009
More Wet Art from Paul Gillard
I like this one from a digital source but the latest Twitter news is about under water.
There is still a lot of interest in India but I cannot find many Devon blogs linking in as yet.
There is still a lot of interest in India but I cannot find many Devon blogs linking in as yet.
Tuesday, September 08, 2009
Frogs exemplify art promo from Devon
Paul Gillard has uploaded some more wet art, frogs this time. Apparently the other pages in this series are getting unusual attention following blog links from India. About a million visits in August and 25,000 one day in September as claimed on the site so this is unusual for Artists in Devon or anyone I know. So far I have assumed that Youtube would be the best way of promoting art. But maybe online examples are better, easier to access.
I phoned Paul recently about Animated Exeter. More about this later. Hard to get his attention on video with all the interest in wet art. He claims these pages are now more popular than the Mona Lisa. The logic seems to be based on the rate they can both be viewed. The queue at the Louvre can only go so fast while the web pages can be served up any number of times. I do not see the point of going too far with this. The galleries will want to speed up the queues. But the point is that this form of art is intended to be viewed online.
The Google ads are at least paying the server costs as well. If the level of a few hundreds of pounds continues over more than one month this could work for other pages as well. And the site will get more attention for Devon artists. Paul is now in Cornwall by the way but is still more or less local. Here in Exeter, most people are on the way to somewhere else such as St Ives.
I phoned Paul recently about Animated Exeter. More about this later. Hard to get his attention on video with all the interest in wet art. He claims these pages are now more popular than the Mona Lisa. The logic seems to be based on the rate they can both be viewed. The queue at the Louvre can only go so fast while the web pages can be served up any number of times. I do not see the point of going too far with this. The galleries will want to speed up the queues. But the point is that this form of art is intended to be viewed online.
The Google ads are at least paying the server costs as well. If the level of a few hundreds of pounds continues over more than one month this could work for other pages as well. And the site will get more attention for Devon artists. Paul is now in Cornwall by the way but is still more or less local. Here in Exeter, most people are on the way to somewhere else such as St Ives.
Friday, August 28, 2009
New Exeter Radio Show - image rights continued
I have done a video edit of my own bit on this week's show. More to come on other sections but I want to continue the story on image rights and copyright. A bit obscure so this tends to be interrupted by some other issue on the radio, or some music. I did a report on the Classic Synth event, linked to Analog to Digital. Digital music is the strongets base for relaxed copyright attitudes. I also mention the videos at Spacex and the Sundown demoscene party. This year Sundown are suggesting Creative Commons as something to consider for all the releases. Previously things have been more informal but there have been problems as when tunes reappear on a commercial mix. Creative Commons terms are specific about allowed forms of reuse.
Not sure about a video record of the evening at Spacex next Thursday. Maybe more later. I cannot follow the German but the YouTube video from Frankfurt shows the art video in a window so street interviews are possible. Any translation welcome.
Not sure about a video record of the evening at Spacex next Thursday. Maybe more later. I cannot follow the German but the YouTube video from Frankfurt shows the art video in a window so street interviews are possible. Any translation welcome.
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
Back to memory
The New Exeter Radio show turns out to be a good development for me. It is a real chat show so it has a focus. So far no problem with video permissions, including when the music is playing. Copyright issues will return around animation before too long.
Current topics are around car boot sales. I was surprised not to be allowed to video the Art Car Boot Fair at the Castle but the policy seems to work out. Two stories in the Express and Echo including a photo from the organisers. So the close control of images can be effective and is clearly one policy option. But this Saturday there is a carboot for Vintage Guitars and Classic Synths. the analogue to Digital event was open to photos and there was an agreed tag - A2D09 - so my stuff on YouTube can be found. Includes performance from the evening.
Search on "new exeter radio show image rights" to find recent views from me. Lighting dreadful but the sound is ok.
Meanwhile things do change and I have been able to record some aspects of Spacex events, including a talk at the cathedral by Simon Pope and an interview with Nick Durnan at Spacex. Simon Pope curated the show based on memories of stone carving that Nick Durnan will recreate. So the four clips below may be a basis for memories or future interviews and comments. The street views done recently. comments welcome on this blog or as video on YouTube.
should link to other ones
Current topics are around car boot sales. I was surprised not to be allowed to video the Art Car Boot Fair at the Castle but the policy seems to work out. Two stories in the Express and Echo including a photo from the organisers. So the close control of images can be effective and is clearly one policy option. But this Saturday there is a carboot for Vintage Guitars and Classic Synths. the analogue to Digital event was open to photos and there was an agreed tag - A2D09 - so my stuff on YouTube can be found. Includes performance from the evening.
Search on "new exeter radio show image rights" to find recent views from me. Lighting dreadful but the sound is ok.
Meanwhile things do change and I have been able to record some aspects of Spacex events, including a talk at the cathedral by Simon Pope and an interview with Nick Durnan at Spacex. Simon Pope curated the show based on memories of stone carving that Nick Durnan will recreate. So the four clips below may be a basis for memories or future interviews and comments. The street views done recently. comments welcome on this blog or as video on YouTube.
should link to other ones
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